Jeremy Clarkson Forum

[Snowy]

Why is it that the Welsh and the Scots generally vote for the Labour party?

[welshwizard]

Good question. My home town would vote for a donkey if he had a labour roset. But the times they are a changing. Unfortunatly the nationalists are now in favour, which helps in local and assembly governments, but not so in the national elections. The more extremist parties are also getting a foothold particularly in the old industrial heartlands of the M4 corridor, as eastern europeans 'invade' in what is still a close community driven society. I also think that the labour party under Rhodri Morgan distance themselves from Brown and his cronies in London to such a point where the Welsh people don't make the connection between the both of them. Rhodri is also a very popular and likeable man, and despite occasionaly engaging mouth before brain, is well respected. Brown on the other had is not liked very much.
I left Gods country many years ago to make a better life for myself (and had succeded until Brown chuffed up the economy), but return to visit a few times a year, and the above opinions are gained from talking to friends and family.

[Buffalohill]

I believe that they don't now vote for Labour in Scotland, the SNP won the last election there, Labour are finished in Scotland
Vast areas of Northern England still vote Labour, far more in numbers than Scotland ever did

[Bob Fisher]

I don't see the point in voting Labour, is it some form of masacism ?

[topgeariscool]

The Welsh don't anymore...

[Minfear]

Can't speak for any of the other rabble here, but I don't, and I live in Cardiff!

[norfolkcaravanner]

Why bother, we got all the jocks in our Parliament running the country anyway.....I mean "running" in the loosest sense as our EU leaders, and the multimillionare taffy Kinnock lot not doing to bad either......good old socialism......."got the foremans job at last"...so the song goes.....

[Brainofbritain]

Re: Why do the Welsh and the Scots vote labour? (check your facts Snowball, the majority of Scots vote SNP)

Why do the Limey's vote Conservative?

[norfolkcaravanner]

Re: Why do the Welsh and the Scots vote labour? (check your facts Snowball, the majority of Scots vote SNP)

Why do the Limey's vote Conservative?

The brain is going in deep now.......six months of postings being brought up again.....perhaps he is trying to think of something original that he can post as his own when he,s finished his paperound....

[Ivor Bigtruck]

Re: Why do the Welsh and the Scots vote labour? (check your facts Snowball, the majority of Scots vote SNP)

Why do the Limey's vote Conservative?

Three posts now from "Brian", and this is the only one not overtly offensive, or aggressive.

Let's read between the lines here. The reference to most Scots voting SNP suggests maybe that you agree with this political stance, so perhaps you're Scottish. However, you call yourself Brain of Britain, so maybe not. You refer to the English as "Limey's", a term used by the Americans, but I doubt you're a Yank 'cos you're Brain of Britain. But not English, or you'd not refer to us as Limeys (notice no need for an apostrophe for a plural. Could be you're a Grocer!).

No reference, however to the Welsh!

I conclude therefore, perhaps we have another Taffy with us (although the Welsh Wizard seems much better educated, informed, and does not write such a load of old bollocks as Brian.)!

By the way, as an Englishman I wish I could vote SNP. Now that'd sort out a few problems. Think about it, Scottish independance proper could be the best thing ever to happen for England. We could have our own Parliament back instead of the Scottish dictatorship we're saddled with now!

[Brainofbritain]

"By the way, as an Englishman I wish I could vote SNP. Now that'd sort out a few problems. Think about it, Scottish independance proper could be the best thing ever to happen for England. We could have our own Parliament back instead of the Scottish dictatorship we're saddled with now!"

I suspect that most Scots would welcome the return of the "English" parliament to the English, they would get what they deserve, a coven of corrupt thieving bastards who could not run a third rate back street brothel in Bankok, By the way I do believe David Cameron is Scottish, check it out, no matter who the English turn to they will be fucked by the Scots!

By the way, who are the English, and how and when did they arrive on our Islands?

[Ivor Bigtruck]

As far as back street brothels in Bankok are concerned, I know nothing of these, and thus will have to bow to your superior knowledge.

As for David Cameron, yes, I am aware he has Scottish roots, and for what it is worth I think he will make a crap Prime Minister, but far far better than Gordon Brown.

Unfortunately, lots of little old ladies with slightly blue tinged hair fell for Cameron's charm and suave looks, thus resulting in him being elected leader of the Torys instead of David Davies, who although less charismatic, would have been a far better leader and would make a much better Prime Minister, capable of getting this once great nation back upon its feet. Spin over substance again, in afraid.

It's hard to define with any degree of accuracy "who are the English" after centuries of invasions and migration to and from our country from all over the world. I think being English can best be defined if you, or your parents were born here, or if your ancesters were English, if you feel you belong here and accept the English way of life. Whilst I think Nationalism is often damaging, as in Northern Ireland for example, there is nothing at all wrong with being patrioticaly proud of your country, wherever you are from.

I think it's also quite acceptable to consider you belong to two countries. For example, many Indians, or people of Indian origin now have settled in England, contributing greatly to their communities and the economy as a whole, and are both proud to be both Indian and English. Welsh Wizard now lives in England, but I'm no doubt sure he's still proud to be a Taffy, and quite rightly so.

England, and Englishness are weakened, however, when people who do not consider themselves to be English come to our country and start trying to damage, or destroy our indigenous way of life, Scottish Politicians, European Politicians, Muslim Extremists, Starbucks, etc., have all damaged the fabric of our way of life to some degree. Also hugely damaging are the actions of English louts who travel abroad, on holiday or to soccer matches, and fail to act as good ambassadors for our nation.

Hope this answers your question and you have learnt something. By the way, we're all still waiting in excited anticipation for an example of your humour, as yet still absent from your writings.

[Brainofbritain]

Ivor, thank you for the education you have given me, I am a better person for it, as you mentioned Indians here is a joke....

Mahatma Ghandi, as you know, walked barefoot most of the
time, which produced an impressive set of calluses on his feet.
He also ate very little, which made him rather frail and with
his odd diet, ie drinking his own urine he suffered from really bad breath.

This made him what?

A super callused fragile mystic plagued with halitosis.

Maybe he should have taken a spoonful of sugar to help the urine go down

[Ivor Bigtruck]

There you go, Brian. I knew you could do it! Never doubted you for a minute. Well done.

However, some silly bugger will now be sure to throw abuse at you for being an anti Ghandiist, or something!

[norfolkcaravanner]

Saw the film.....f****** brilliant....liked the salt bit....no mention of a nation of shopkeepers though.....used to be us....but our lot closed at six o,clock and didn,t open on sundays....all credit to them.....better than knocking out drugs in ghettos, drive by shootings, mugging old ladies, or anyone, talking in some crap rap language even though they should be cockneys......"see you later down the rub a dub man"....dream on.....