Jeremy Clarkson Forum

[topgeariscool]

I think, some of the vote, was shallow.
Look at Barack Obama, look at David Cameron... Look at Gordon Brown!
Doesn't quite fit.
Now if Labour got someone a bit younger, a bit healthier looking to run the party and indeed the country, to combat David Cameron, to be a British Obama, if we got someone for to represent a hipper younger Britain like David Miliband, I think he would bring in more Labour votes than Gordon Brown based on photogenic value alone.

[Russ]

What kind of arse would want to increase the Labour vote. It is about all of Labour being corrupt and as much use as tits on a bull. The whole bally lot should sod off and die for the good of the country. But not before Brown has been forced to eat a copy of every stupid law Labour have introduced and I've knocked that stupid smile off Blairs face with a 14lb sledgehammer.

[topgeariscool]

I don't have to remind your quote unquote educated self that the expenses scandal was spread out across the political parties and not unique to Labour M.Ps.
When are you going to get off your tractor and see that?

[Russ]

I don't have to remind your quote unquote educated self that the expenses scandal was spread out across the political parties and not unique to Labour M.Ps.
When are you going to get off your tractor and see that?

I don't rate any of the main parties. I have not got a tractor. Anyone who speaks in favour of labour is corrupt, stupid or both.

[topgeariscool]

I have not got a tractor. Anyone who speaks in favour of labour is corrupt, stupid or both.

Though I do doubt your actual tractor ownership, you still type like someone who should be riding one.
Having the main party more unstable than the extreme thinking parties does spell trouble for all I think.
I think Labour needs a face lift or a better face to feed the media than Gordon Brown.
Even though he wasn't elected, I still think David Cameron is sh*t with no answers, but that is just me.

[Russ]

I do have a model fergie and have repaired many real tractor in my time. As for the political issues, the whole system needs rocking to the core. If it takes a bit extreme thinking to do that, sobeit. I am not talking about a green revolution, an independant England or Prime Minister Griffin, just someone who will stand up for the people who are constantly discriminated against by Labour mostly, as they are in power, but others are guilty also.

Male, a low to middle earner, honest, hard working, white, driver, English, smoker who likes a pint as a treat and wants to raise his family in a reasonable manner and wants safe streets, a decent level of healthcare, services, and a future for him and his family.

Labour hates this type of person and has hounded them for years and years, criminalising, fleecing, and discriminating against them without giving a toss about them as people, ingnoring their voices and bullying them. Labour have, also, more than other parties shown a staggering level of incompetence that beggers belief.

I am one of these people and have had enough

[norfolkcaravanner]

I don't have to remind your quote unquote educated self that the expenses scandal was spread out across the political parties and not unique to Labour M.Ps.
When are you going to get off your tractor and see that?

What a wanker.......You tried enemy's reunited???.......loads of tractors around here, all driven by our EU friends from Eastern Europe....Pissed up from dawn till dusk...me no speak English.....pity Griffen didn't change his name to Cromwell...

[welshwizard]

So, all the press and politicians are banging on about 'All those fascist voting for the BNP. Bloody Nazi lovers.' Now what does the word Nazi stand for. Ah, that's it, Nationalsozialismus or roughly translated National Socialist German Workers’ Party. So a bit like the labour (working man's) party but German. There, we've all learnt something today, and why Jackboot Smith wanted ID cards etc.

Now if you go to the BBC news website, and search 'why I voted bnp' you'll understand why people voted for them. Fundamentally it's because they have taken time to listen to what the long time silent majority in the UK would like their politicians to do for them, and not what a bunch of champagne socialists and their friends in minority fringe groups want.

Personally, I didn't vote, but had a wonderful time watching new labour get a bloody good kick in. My only worry is that the others are promising more of the same.

[Russ]

Have to take issue with you there, you are jumping on the BNP bandwagon. Not to vote is to disengauge from the process allowing ghost votes. Did you polling station at 9:59 cast a labour vote in your name? They have done it before!

I am not a BNP member and am not a fascist. There will never be PM Griffin but there needs to be a voice to fight your corner.
People judge the BNP by what they read in the media, fools.
Hate me if you wish but I was a BNP voter, I did not want to, but an uninformed vote is a wasted vote and search as I did, desparate for an alternative there were none. It was not a protest vote and they did not win but it sent such a measage to GB that he was about to reform the candidate selection process until it was pointed out this is a domocracy not Zimbarbwae and another u turn.

General election soon but not now, let the parties draw up a response

GB has already, " more spending"

[Russ]

Now if you go to the BBC news website,

That will be the bbc who need their charter renewed by th government, state tv.

[welshwizard]

Yes. Your right there Russ. Her indoors was told that she had moved to a different borough of London as she had requested, and could not vote here in the mayoral elections last year. Thing is she hadn't. Now they are accusing her of all sorts of things to try and fiddle the system. (The borough we live in is a marginal labour one (as is the council who register people to vote) and prior to moving here I came from a west Wales town who would vote in a donkey if it wore a red rosettes (and for many years they did with Denzel Davis!), and her indoors came from a true blue Tory town in Hertfordshire, and maybe that possible vote for the Tory candidate might just have swung the seat to the Tories. Speculation you understand, but no smoke without fire).

The press and political parties have cast the bnp as nazis. All I can say is never believe them. Do your own research and find out for yourself. It's what I do, and clearly others too like Russ.

[Russ]

Do you retract the comment "all those fascists voting for the BNP", Ill admit they did get the fascist vote. But don't include me and the best part of a million others.

[welshwizard]

Sorry Russ. Wasn't meant to be a dig. I've edited it now to make my point more clearly.

Had a great laugh yesterday watching Griffin being pelted with eggs and shouted down, but not as you'd imagine. Now tell me, who were the fascist, Griffin the politician recently elected by the people in a legitimate election, or the tossers who stopped him speaking and pelted him with eggs before chasing him to his car? Irony is a funny old thing.

I think it was George Washington who said something along the lines of ' I may not like what you say, but I would die for your right to say it'.

[norfolkcaravanner]

Think our esteemed leaders better take a serious look at things, and they could see why the BNP are going to get stronger by the week......non "British" offenders of crime, from murder downwards allowed to stay in my country because of their "human Rights".......load of bollocks...next plane home....would leave plenty of room in our prisons for our own bunch of shits...

[welshwizard]

The BNP have no interest or desire it seems to be voted in as MEP/Councillors in Northern Ireland, but it seems they're policies are being followed particularly whilst dealing with Romanians!

[topgeariscool]

the BNP can suck my 7"s
And people may wonder why sometimes I, a Londoner of English and Welsh decent want an Independent London lol.